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Proving the Gnostics are the Real Christians

Updated: Aug 31

Proving the Gnostics are real


1. First Pope could of been a Gnostic

Valentinus was the best known and, for a time, most successful early Christian Gnostic theologian. He founded his school in Rome. According to Tertullian, Valentinus was a candidate for bishop but started his own group when another was chosen. Wikipedia


2. Prophecy of killing the true Christians

John 16:2

They will put you out of the synagogues; yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service.

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Catharism was a Christian dualist or Gnostic movement between the 12th and 14th centuries which thrived in Southern Europe, particularly in northern Italy and southern France. Wikipedia

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This brutal massacre was the first major battle in the Albigensian Crusade called by Pope Innocent III against the Cathars, a religious sect. The French city of Béziers, a Cathar stronghold, was burned down and 20,000 residents killed after a papal legate, the Abbot of Cîteaux, declared, "Slaughter them all!"


3. Paul was known as a Gnostic but he was'nt he was pretending to be to gain trust from real students.


.Consider these various examples of people forwarding or confronting the idea: Paul being Gnostic, "he was changing the Gnostic teachings that's why he mentions them"


1The Gnostic Paul - Book by Elaine Pagels

2Was the Apostle Paul a Gnostic?

3The Gnostic Paul - Random Blog post

4Paul the Gnostic Opponent of Peter Not an Apostle of Historic Christianity (PDF)


4. Until a prophecy is fulfilled no one could understand the scripture

This happened not until 1945 when two events happened


*. Holocust , Nakba 1945 basically ,many basically killed and made to leave home land Palestine at the time know as the land.


*.the Nag Hammadi Library was discovered in December of 1945


Isaiah 11:10-12

10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,

12 And the Lord have removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the land.


5. Hagia Sophia Church name of Sophia connection with Sophia in the Gnostic books.


Hagia Sophia, and formerly the Church of Hagia Sophia, is a Late Antique place of worship in Istanbul, designed by the Greek geometers Isidore of Miletus and Anthemius of Tralles. Wikipedia


Built in 360 destroyed and structure problems at times and rebuild many times.


Its followers worship Sophia as both divine female creator and counterpart to Jesus Christ. According to Gnostic beliefs, Christ was conceived of as having two aspects: a male half, identified as the son of God, and a female half, called Sophia, who was venerated as the mother of the universe.


6. Hagia in Connection with Gospel of Holy Twelve which has teachings similar to Gnostic teaching basically and also in connection with Church built named Hagia Sophia.

Hagia Sophia -Hagia means Holy Wisdom


Holy Wisdom, Ayasofya) represents a brilliant moment in Byzantine architecture and art. It was the principal church of the Byzantine Empire in its capital, Constantinople


Gospel of Holy Twelve

But the comforter, who is my Mother, Holy Wisdom whom, the Father will send in my name, she shall teach you all things and bring all things to remembrance whatsoever I have said unto you.


John 14:26 - But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


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Theirs a monument made for Constantine after the battle it has three pagan gods and pagan Apollo God and this is after the battle was won.

No crosses or signs of Christianity , their was a gathering held by him years later and then he shares his so called dream and vision, most likely a lie obviously considering on the monument it would not be the way it is now.

And they rewritten the events of the history of the events recorded about the victory and added the vision and dream.

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Thought I add that if you believe him.

You should get to know history before you decide what truth is.


Five times in the Gospel of Philip which is known as a Gnostic book, it mentions the words Christian

They were saying they were the true Christians when being killed.


Christian roots

All from

Gospel of Philip

43The Name “Christian”

If you say, “I am a Jew,” no one will be moved. If you say, “I am a Roman,” no one will be disturbed. If you say, “I am a Greek, barbarian, slave, free,” no one will be troubled. If you say, “I am a Christian,” the [world] will be shaken. May I [receive the one] whose name the [world] cannot bear to hear.


52Going Down into the Water

Anyone who goes down into the water and comes up without receiving anything and says, “I am a Christian,” has borrowed the name. But one who receives the holy spirit has the name as a gift. A gift does not have to be paid back, but what is borrowed must be paid. This is how it is with us, when one of us experiences a mystery.


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Those who receive the name of the father, son, and holy spirit and have accepted them must do this. If someone does not accept them, the name will also be taken from that person. A person receives them in the chrism with the oil of the power of the cross. The apostles called this power the right and the left. This person is no longer a Christian but is Christ.


84Chrism Is Superior to Baptism

Chrism is superior to baptism. We are called Christians from the word “chrism,” not from the word “baptism.” Christ also has his name from chrism, for the father anointed the son, the son anointed the apostles, and the apostles anointed us. Whoever is anointed has everything: resurrection, light, cross, holy spirit. The father gave all this to the person in the bridal chamber, and the person accepted it. The father was in the son and the son was in the father. This is heaven’s kingdom.


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No Jews…from Greeks…from Jews…to Christians. [There was another generation of people], and these [blessed people] were called the chosen spiritual ones, [76] true humankind, the child of humankind, and the offspring of the child of humankind. This true generation is renowned in the world, and this is where the attendants of the bridal chamber are.

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